there are concerns for can her -- for defense people on both sides of the issue. host: juana summers previously contributed to politico's campaign reporting. she has experience writing for the kansas city star. good morning. you are on washington journal. caller: the economy is not going to fall apart on january 3. as far as sequestration, until you take all of the money out of the campaign from the defense contractors and the insurance companies, it is probably the only way they will significantly cut spending. our credit rating is not reduced again and we go into a recession, which will cost taxes to go down. can you hear me? host: we sure can. caller: we spend more than the next 20 countries combined on defense. even robert gates said we could cut it significantly. last week, we did not hear any whining in 2006 when the republicans passed the free- trade deal with china that lost millions of jobs. you sound like you work for the defense department or something, or defense contractors. host: sorry about that. guest: you made a lot of good points. if you look at